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5. THE GAMES BEGIN [KRISHNAMURTI : THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY with DAVID BOHM + THE TURNING POINT + WASHINGTON TALKS]

 

 

O. THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY

 

IS THERE AN ACTION NOT TOUCHED BY THOUGHT?

http://youtu.be/fK88QRGUoMw 

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IS THERE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS?

http://youtu.be/idgG7uRxj4I

 

Foreword By David Bohm - The Future of Humanity Foreword By David Bohm  

"THE STARTING POINT FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS THE QUESTION: "WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY?" THIS QUESTION IS BY NOW OF VITAL CONCERN TO EVERYONE, BECAUSE MODERN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ARE CLEARLY SEEN TO HAVE OPENED UP IMMENSE POSSIBILITIES OF DESTRUCTION. IT SOON BECAME CLEAR AS WE TALKED TOGETHER THAT THE ULTIMATE ORIGIN OF THIS SITUATION IS IN THE GENERALLY CONFUSED MENTALITY OF MANKIND, WHICH HAS NOT CHANGED BASICALLY IN THIS RESPECT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OF RECORDED HISTORY AND PROBABLY FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THIS. EVIDENTLY, IT WAS ESSENTIAL TO INQUIRE DEEPLY INTO THE ROOT OF THIS DIFFICULTY IF THERE IS EVER TO BE A POSSIBILITY THAT HUMANITY WILL BE DIVERTED FROM ITS PRESENT VERY DANGEROUS COURSE."

- DAVID BOHM

TABLEREAD

 

1. IS THERE AN ACTION NOT TOUCHED BY THOUGHT?

2. IS THERE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS?

 

TRANSCRIPT SHORT VERSION

 

TRANSCRIPT LONGER VERSION

  • Chapter 1 - Brockwood Park 1st Conversation with Prof D Bohm 11th June 1983 the Future of Mankind
  • Chapter 2 - Brockwood Park 2nd Conversation with Prof D Bohm 20th June 1983 the Future of Mankind

 

I. THE TURNING POINT

 

FULL PLAYLIST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4630E1B583DF2A29&v=6r8iMwD27lU

PART 3 OF 8: THE ENDING OF CONFLICT

http://youtu.be/EU137OOOPxg 

 

http://jiddukrishnamurti.isteaching.com/the-turning-point.html

"THIS FREEDOM IS NOT AN IDEAL, A THING TO TAKE PLACE EVENTUALLY. THE FIRST STEP IN FREEDOM IS THE LAST STEP IN IT. IT IS THE FIRST STEP THAT COUNTS, NOT THE LAST STEP. WHAT YOU DO NOW IS FAR MORE ESSENTIAL THAN WHAT YOU DO AT SOME FUTURE DATE. LIFE IS WHAT IS HAPPENING THIS INSTANT, NOT AN IMAGINED INSTANT, NOT WHAT THOUGHT HAS CONCEIVED. SO IT IS THE FIRST STEP YOU TAKE NOW THAT IS IMPORTANT. IF THAT STEP IS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THEN THE WHOLE OF LIFE IS OPEN TO YOU. THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS NOT TOWARDS AN IDEAL, A PREDETERMINED END. IT IS INSEPARABLE FROM THAT WHICH IS TAKING PLACE NOW. THIS IS NOT A PHILOSOPHY, A SERIES OF THEORIES. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE WORD PHILOSOPHY MEANS - THE LOVE OF TRUTH, THE LOVE OF LIFE. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GO TO THE UNIVERSITY TO LEARN. WE ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE ART OF LIVING IN OUR DAILY LIFE."

- J. KRISHNAMURTI

YINYANGISTHEWAY


 

1. WHAT IS THE NATURE OF OUR CONSCIOUSNESS?

2. LEARNING THAT TRANSFORMS CONSCIOUSNESS

3. THE ENDING OF CONFLICT

4. LIVING WITHOUT IMAGES

5. CAN THE BRAIN BE TOTALLY FREE?

6. LOVE AND FREEDOM

7. TO LIVE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF CONTROL

8. 1ST Q&A MEETING

9. 2ND Q&A MEETING

10. 3RD Q&A MEETING

 

TRANSCRiPT SHORT VERSION

 

TRANSCRIPT LONGER UNEDITED VERSION


TRAIN TO PROMISED LAND

TRAIN

 

 

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SO YOU AND I ARE THE PROBLEM, AND NOT THE WORLD, BECAUSE THE WORLD IS THE PROJECTION OF OURSELVES AND TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD WE MUST UNDERSTAND OURSELVES.

THE WORLD IS NOT SEPARATE FROM US; WE ARE THE WORLD, AND OUR PROBLEMS ARE THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS.

THIS CANNOT BE REPEATED TOO OFTEN, BECAUSE WE ARE SO SLUGGISH IN OUR MENTALITY THAT WE THINK THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS ARE NOT OUR BUSINESS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE RESOLVED BY THE UNITED NATIONS OR BY SUBSTITUTING NEW LEADERS FOR THE OLD.

IT IS A VERY DULL MENTALITY THAT THINKS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FRIGHTFUL MISERY AND CONFUSION IN THE WORLD, THIS EVER-IMPENDING WAR.

TO TRANSFORM THE WORLD, WE MUST BEGIN WITH OURSELVES; AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN BEGINNING WITH OURSELVES IS THE INTENTION.

THE INTENTION MUST BE TO UNDERSTAND OURSELVES AND NOT TO LEAVE IT TO OTHERS TO TRANSFORM THEMSELVES OR TO BRING ABOUT A MODIFIED CHANGE THROUGH REVOLUTION, EITHER OF THE LEFT OR OF THE RIGHT.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, YOURS AND MINE; BECAUSE, HOWEVER SMALL MAY BE THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, IF WE CAN TRANSFORM OURSELVES, BRING ABOUT A RADICALLY DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW IN OUR DAILY EXISTENCE, THEN PERHAPS WE SHALL AFFECT THE WORLD AT LARGE, THE EXTENDED RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHERS.

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...THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE WORLD IS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE TRANSFORMATION OF ONESELF, BECAUSE THE SELF IS THE PRODUCT AND A PART OF THE TOTAL PROCESS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE.

TO TRANSFORM ONESELF, SELF- KNOWLEDGE IS ESSENTIAL; WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE, THERE IS NO BASIS FOR RIGHT THOUGHT, AND WITHOUT KNOWING YOURSELF THERE CANNOT BE TRANSFORMATION.

ONE MUST KNOW ONESELF AS ONE IS, NOT AS ONE WISHES TO BE WHICH IS MERELY AN IDEAL AND THEREFORE FICTITIOUS, UNREAL; IT IS ONLY THAT WHICH IS THAT CAN BE TRANSFORMED, NOT THAT WHICH YOU WISH TO BE.

TO KNOW ONESELF AS ONE IS REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARY ALERTNESS OF MIND, BECAUSE WHAT IS IS CONSTANTLY UNDERGOING TRANSFORMATION, CHANGE, AND TO FOLLOW IT SWIFTLY THE MIND MUST NOT BE TETHERED TO ANY PARTICULAR DOGMA OR BELIEF, TO ANY PARTICULAR PATTERN OF ACTION.

IF YOU WOULD FOLLOW ANYTHING IT IS NO GOOD BEING TETHERED.

TO KNOW YOURSELF, THERE MUST BE THE AWARENESS, THE ALERTNESS OF MIND IN WHICH THERE IS FREEDOM FROM ALL BELIEFS, FROM ALL IDEALIZATION BECAUSE BELIEFS AND IDEALS ONLY GIVE YOU A COLOUR, PERVERTING TRUE PERCEPTION.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE YOU CANNOT IMAGINE OR HAVE BELIEF IN SOMETHING WHICH YOU ARE NOT.

IF I AM GREEDY, ENVIOUS, VIOLENT, MERELY HAVING AN IDEAL OF NON-VIOLENCE, OF NON-GREED, IS OF LITTLE VALUE.

BUT TO KNOW THAT ONE IS GREEDY OR VIOLENT, TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND IT, REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARY PERCEPTION, DOES IT NOT?

IT DEMANDS HONESTY, CLARITY OF THOUGHT, WHEREAS TO PURSUE AN IDEAL AWAY FROM WHAT IS IS AN ESCAPE; IT PREVENTS YOU FROM DISCOVERING AND ACTING DIRECTLY UPON WHAT YOU ARE."

 TRAINED

 

TRON

 

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15

 

 

  "THERE IS AN ART OF SEEING THINGS AS THEY ARE: WITHOUT NAMING, WITHOUT BEING CAUGHT IN A NETWORK OF WORDS, WITHOUT THINKING INTERFERING WITH PERCEPTION"

 

 

II. WASHINGTON TALKS

 

 IN THE PRESENT IS THE WHOLE OF TIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USOjNvidLKc 

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AT THE END OF SORROW THERE IS PASSION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGOrr7lvGs 


http://jiddukrishnamurti.isteaching.com/washington-talks.html

"WHAT DOES HONESTY MEAN? CAN THERE BE HONESTY - THAT IS, CLEAR INSIGHT, SEEING THINGS AS THEY ARE - IF THERE IS A PRINCIPLE, AN IDEAL, AN ENNOBLED FORMULA? CAN ONE BE DIRECT IF THERE IS CONFUSION? CAN THERE BE BEAUTY IF THERE IS THE STANDARD OF WHAT IS BEAUTIFUL OR UPRIGHT? WHEN THERE IS THIS DIVISION BETWEEN WHAT IS AND WHAT SHOULD BE, CAN THERE BE HONESTY - OR ONLY AN EDIFYING AND RESPECTABLE DISHONESTY? WE ARE BROUGHT UP BETWEEN THE TWO - BETWEEN WHAT ACTUALLY IS AND WHAT MAY BE. IN THE INTERVAL BETWEEN THESE TWO - THE INTERVAL OF TIME AND SPACE - IS ALL OUR EDUCATION, OUR MORALITY, OUR STRUGGLE. WE KEEP A DISTRACTED LOOK UPON THE ONE AND UPON THE OTHER, A LOOK OF FEAR AND A LOOK OF HOPE. AND CAN THERE BE HONESTY, SINCERITY, IN THIS STATE, WHICH SOCIETY CALLS EDUCATION? WHEN WE SAY WE ARE DISHONEST, ESSENTIALLY WE MEAN THERE IS A COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE SAID AND WHAT IS. ONE HAS SAID SOMETHING WHICH ONE DOESN'T MEAN, PERHAPS TO GIVE PASSING ASSURANCE OR BECAUSE ONE IS NERVOUS, SHY OR ASHAMED TO SAY SOMETHING WHICH ACTUALLY IS. SO NERVOUS APPREHENSION AND FEAR MAKE US DISHONEST. WHEN WE ARE PURSUING SUCCESS WE MUST BE SOMEWHAT DISHONEST, PLAY UP TO ANOTHER, BE CUNNING, DECEITFUL, TO ACHIEVE OUR END. OR ONE HAS GAINED AUTHORITY OR A POSITION WHICH ONE WANTS TO DEFEND. SO ALL RESISTANCE, ALL DEFENSE, IS A FORM OF DISHONESTY. TO BE HONEST MEANS TO HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT ONESELF AND NO SEED OF ILLUSION - WHICH IS DESIRE AND PLEASURE."

- J. KRISHNAMURTI

RETRIEVABILITY

 

 

1. IN THE PRESENT IS THE WHOLE OF TIME

2. AT THE END OF SORROW IS PASSION

 

TRANSCRIPT SHORT VERSION 

 

TRANSCRIPT LONGER VERSION

 

LET THE GAMES BEGIN! 

 

TRAIN


DISC OF LIOR

HEDONISMBOT'S FLYING CIRCUS

 

 81

 

  

 

TED: BILL, MY FRIEND?

BILL: YES, TED MY FRIEND?

TED: THIS HAS BEEN A MOST EXCELLENT ADVENTURE!

 

 

GOD GAVE ROCK & ROLL TO YOU

"QUITE GOOD, QUITE GOOD"

 

ROIL ATSE

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